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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
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Posted - 2006-08-04 : 11:59:55
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DAMN THEM TO HELL!!!!!!!I was never opposed to nulls... but now... IT'S OVER.THEY CAN BITE MY SHINY METAL ASS!!!!!!!!!!!sorry folks... rant over!Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow blog thingie: http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenp |
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nr
SQLTeam MVY
12543 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-04 : 12:09:15
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But without null you wouldn't be able to use coalesce!==========================================Cursors are useful if you don't know sql.DTS can be used in a similar way.Beer is not cold and it isn't fizzy. |
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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
11752 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-04 : 12:15:45
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fine by me Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow blog thingie: http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenp |
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X002548
Not Just a Number
15586 Posts |
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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
11752 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-04 : 13:38:18
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DOD?Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow blog thingie: http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenp |
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Michael Valentine Jones
Yak DBA Kernel (pronounced Colonel)
7020 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-04 : 13:50:26
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What's a NULL?CODO ERGO SUM |
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TG
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
6065 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-04 : 15:01:33
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SHINY METAL ASS ???Doesn't it rust?Be One with the OptimizerTG |
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rockmoose
SQL Natt Alfen
3279 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-04 : 15:31:40
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LOLDOD = Date of DeathYay!SQL2023 (codename unknown (null?) I heard is going to fix this problem. |
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Stoad
Freaky Yak Linguist
1983 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-04 : 15:35:14
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If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us. (c) not mine======================Let me hug & kiss you... |
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Michael Valentine Jones
Yak DBA Kernel (pronounced Colonel)
7020 Posts |
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eyechart
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
3575 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-05 : 01:09:18
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quote: Originally posted by Stoad If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us. (c) not mine======================Let me hug & kiss you...
new medication? :)-ec |
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Stoad
Freaky Yak Linguist
1983 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-05 : 03:37:37
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I think I just hinted that if someone hates nulls it means he himself is full of them (of nulls) ======================Let me hug & kiss you... |
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madhivanan
Premature Yak Congratulator
22864 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-05 : 04:51:18
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quote: Originally posted by nr But without null you wouldn't be able to use coalesce!==========================================Cursors are useful if you don't know sql.DTS can be used in a similar way.Beer is not cold and it isn't fizzy.
So as ISNULL MadhivananFailing to plan is Planning to fail |
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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
11752 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-05 : 06:21:01
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hey... are you calling me an empty shell, stoad? I resent that!! Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow blog thingie: http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenp |
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TG
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
6065 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-05 : 07:18:52
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I think an "empty shell" would be more analogous to an emptry string. I believe he was referring to you as that which never was, or perhaps that which is not but will be. Like a DOD, which of course is something that no one can have until they are no more - the only thing you can "take with you". Yes Spirit1, I think Stoad's point is that you are a DOD to one who is. Ok, it's obviously still too early for me to be communicating - I'll get another cup of coffee...Be One with the OptimizerTG |
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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
11752 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-05 : 07:31:09
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wow... that's some serious metaphysical stuff, TG... And besides i already know my DOD. 18.11.2061...Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow blog thingie: http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenp |
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TG
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
6065 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-05 : 08:06:41
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Then on that day I shall mourne. Of course I'll be 102 so there may be some drooling involved as well.EDIT:Why that day? Can you put your death off until another day? Lets get together and play some golf that day...my calendar is clear :) Be One with the OptimizerTG |
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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
11752 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-05 : 08:41:14
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the powers to be told me so golfing would be a nice way to go.... yeah let's do it!Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow blog thingie: http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenp |
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Stoad
Freaky Yak Linguist
1983 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-05 : 10:52:47
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if seriouslywhat will LEFT JOIN be without notion of NULL value?where RightTable.SomeColumn is NULL======================Let me hug & kiss you... |
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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
11752 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-05 : 11:03:38
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that's different.I meant allowing columns in table to be nullable.I understand that they are needed... I just got pissed off for a moment there Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow blog thingie: http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenp |
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rockmoose
SQL Natt Alfen
3279 Posts |
Posted - 2006-08-05 : 11:28:25
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quote: Originally posted by Stoad if seriouslywhat will LEFT JOIN be without notion of NULL value?where RightTable.SomeColumn is NULL
Depends on the implementation of the relational model.For instance, if relation valued attributes (RVA) were possible then OUTER JOIN would not be necessary.A relation could be extended with a RVA, and if no match it would just be empty.Well, since this is not possible in SQL, the discussion is only theoretical, and in practice NULL will continue to represent missing values for outer joins. |
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