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X002548
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tosscrosby
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Posted - 2010-05-06 : 12:23:45
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| If not, at the very least, regulations need to be tightened so that businesses cannot simply say that it was the "hired help's" fault. You contracted with them, you're a team in my opinion, a single entity. You were only TOO happy to team up when you had your right to drill and made BIG bucks doing so. Now the sh*t hits the fan and it's every person for themselves - jerks! Clean up your mess and once all is said and done from the original litigation process, then pursue legal action against your partner - on your own!Terry-- A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice. -- Bill Cosby |
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tkizer
Almighty SQL Goddess
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X002548
Not Just a Number
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tkizer
Almighty SQL Goddess
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Posted - 2010-05-06 : 14:04:33
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| I own a gas hog (2007 Chevy Tahoe LT2). To reduce my family's oil consumption, we bought a fuel-efficient car (hybrid didn't make sense financially) for me to drive to work. Since I work further than my husband does, he drives the gas hog (12 mpg) and I drive the Honda Civic (30 mpg). If it weren't for owning a home and needing a "truck" for Home Depot-type stuff, we would get rid of the gas hog too.Tara KizerMicrosoft MVP for Windows Server System - SQL Serverhttp://weblogs.sqlteam.com/tarad/Subscribe to my blog |
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Kristen
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Posted - 2010-05-06 : 15:29:36
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Originally posted by tosscrosby
If not, at the very least, regulations need to be tightened so that businesses cannot simply say that it was the "hired help's" fault. You contracted with them, you're a team in my opinion, a single entity. You were only TOO happy to team up when you had your right to drill and made BIG bucks doing so. Now the sh*t hits the fan and it's every person for themselves - jerks! Clean up your mess and once all is said and done from the original litigation process, then pursue legal action against your partner - on your own!
I think you are wrongly stating the situation here. I heard BP's chairman interviewed and he said [in effect] "We will pay whatever it costs. We subcontracted this and none of our staff were directly involved"Seems reasonable to me ...If you want oil you have to put up with the fact that sometimes it will spill. Solution is to NOT use/want any oil ...I don't have a problem with making people accountable for negligence, but if everyone wants X then everyone has to take some responsibility for the task of getting X out of the ground going wrong occasionally, rather than being happy to run-for-their-lawyers when the act of getting X out of the ground cocks-up. (As I said, gross negligence should never be allowed as a get-out-of-jail excuse)The alternative is that BP (et al - because I'm sure that if BP was pushed to the point where they felt it necessary to say it then the other majors would follow) says "WTF should we bother drilling for oil / supplying USA with Oil" |
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Kristen
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Posted - 2010-05-06 : 15:54:36
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Originally posted by tkizer
I own a gas hog (2007 Chevy Tahoe LT2). To reduce my family's oil consumption, we bought a fuel-efficient car (hybrid didn't make sense financially) for me to drive to work. Since I work further than my husband does, he drives the gas hog (12 mpg) and I drive the Honda Civic (30 mpg). If it weren't for owning a home and needing a "truck" for Home Depot-type stuff, we would get rid of the gas hog too.
Well .. you'll all know that I am a eco-fan-boy.In the last three years we have reduced our Electricity, Central-heating fuel, Water consumption and Car-fuel by 50%.I feel very strongly that people will have to make this change sooner or later (I may live to be proven wrong, but I ain't looking forward to living to be proven right ...)I live with some uncomfortable compromises that I have made - although I don't see them quite as that. have a V8 sports car that does 15MPG (and that's UK Gallons, so the figure would be worse converted to USA Gallons). But I have reduce usage to 1,000 miles, or less, a year so I see that as "entertainment" rather than necessity. Still bad, but less bad than if I did 30,000 miles a year in it; 5 years ago we had a 20mpg sports car that did 30,000 miles a year ...We have have a 60 mpg (again, that's UK gallons so I think [too late at night to do the maths!] that equates to about 54 mpg USA Gallons). That does all the heavy miles. We also have a people carrier that used to do 10,000 miles p.a. and now does less than 3,000. Instead of replacing it after about 3 years, as we used to, its reduced mileage means we will probably keep if for 10 years.I am comfortable with these compromises for now ... hopefully in a few years I will have better choices , which will be affordable for me, so I will be able to do better still.I'm thrilled that Tara acknowledgises that she could do better. For me that's 90% of the battle - I can't abide people who say "Its governments problem" or "Nah, my kids can worry about that, not me".Last year we replaced two oil fired boilers with a log-burning system boiler and solar panels. The log-boiler is burning renewable fuel, of course, but represents some lifestyle changes for us. We have to make decisions as to whether to light the boiler, or not, when the weather is iffy (might be warm enough, might not be). So some mornings we have a luke-warm shower instead of a comfortable bath ... in the old days the boiler came on if the hot water was not quite hot enough ... regardless of whether we needed it or not ...... but then it wasn't many years ago when it was normal to put on an extra sweater when the house was cold; we didn't have air conditioning in our cars and we survived; we didn't have Stand By on our TV so we just got up and turned it on (and off again later) and we survived.I want to carry on enjoying my current standard of living, and I figure I won't be able to afford it in a few years if I peg it to the price of oil ... hence I have reduced by reliance on Oil. |
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