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khtan
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Posted - 2008-09-10 : 04:53:02
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/earth/2008/09/10/scicern210.xml

Is there a black hole created ? yet ?


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jezemine
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Posted - 2008-09-10 : 09:44:55
probably. but those tiny ones evaporate quickly so don't worry! we won't lose france or switzerland.


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blindman
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Posted - 2008-09-10 : 10:40:55
quote:
Originally posted by jezemine

...don't worry! we won't lose france or switzerland.

Then what good is the damn thing?

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Michael Valentine Jones
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Posted - 2008-09-10 : 15:29:17
quote:
Originally posted by jezemine

probably. but those tiny ones evaporate quickly so don't worry! we won't lose france or switzerland.


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That damn Hawking radiation destroying our precious black holes!

Actually, isn't proving that Hawking radiation exists one of the things that the Large Hadron Collider is supposed to do? Bummer for France and Switzerland if it doesn't exist.






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jezemine
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Posted - 2008-09-10 : 20:41:16
hopefully they find it. If they do hawking will surely get a nobel. He certainly deserves it.

Trouble is, those silly nobel folks think you need experimental verification before handing out nobels in physics. What gives?

That's why you'll never get a nobel if you are string theorist.


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blindman
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Posted - 2008-09-11 : 11:02:15
Or if you are a mathematician.

There is no Nobel prize for mathematics. The story is that at the time Nobel created is prizes, one of the leading mathematicians was having an affair with his wife, and under no circumstances did he ever want to give the guy a medal.

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SwePeso
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Posted - 2008-09-11 : 11:15:43
Footnote 16 and 17.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_prize



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jezemine
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Posted - 2008-09-11 : 11:27:09
yes, well, they have the Fields medal and Abel Prize.

Plus, (as feynman observed) all proofs in math are trivial. How do I know this? because if you hear one mathematician explaining the most complicated proof to another, at the end she says "see, it's trivial" and the other guy says, "yes, of course, it's obvious now. trivial."

You wouldn't give a Nobel for something trivial would you?


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Michael Valentine Jones
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Posted - 2008-09-11 : 12:33:43
It the LHC does create a black hole that swallows the earth, that would be a good explanation for why the SETI people haven't found any advanced civilizations. Once knowledge reaches an advanced level, someone creates a black hole and wipes it out.



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jezemine
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Posted - 2008-09-11 : 12:53:25
is there a term in the Drake equation for that?


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blindman
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Posted - 2008-09-11 : 13:23:46
quote:
[i]Once knowledge reaches an advanced level, someone creates a black hole and wipes it out.
I bet that's why the Civilization Revolution game I was playing last night froze up on me just as I was about to win.

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jezemine
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Posted - 2008-09-11 : 13:49:08
who says getting swallowed by a black hole isn't winning? seems like a good way to go to me.

plus your image will be frozen forever into the event horizon (tinged a bit red) so your buddies will always have a pleasant picture to look at.


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Michael Valentine Jones
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Posted - 2008-09-11 : 14:25:48
It probably won’t be the LHC that does it. It will be the next generation BHC (Black Hole Collider) that takes the micro black holes created by the LHC and collides them to make heavier, stable black holes.

I’m hoping that they build that one on some real estate we can afford to lose, like one of the moons of Pluto.





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mcrowley
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Posted - 2008-09-11 : 14:30:01
quote:
Originally posted by jezemine

plus your image will be frozen forever into the event horizon (tinged a bit red) so your buddies will always have a pleasant picture to look at.



Hmm. I'll have to remember to strike a heroic pose at that point, even though my legs would be getting ripped off by the tidal forces.....
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jezemine
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Posted - 2008-09-11 : 15:01:28
just wear some support hose, you'll be fine.


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blindman
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Posted - 2008-09-11 : 17:00:19
I predict the World will end with some galactic variant of "Msg 8134".

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Michael Valentine Jones
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Posted - 2008-09-11 : 19:37:31
[code]
Server: Msg 8134, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Divide by zero error encountered. Cosmos was terminated unexpectedly.
[/code]




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blindman
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Posted - 2008-09-12 : 10:36:45
[code]Would you like to send an automated e-mail to support?[/code]

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jezemine
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Posted - 2008-09-14 : 23:55:58
here's a convenient link you can check for status:

http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com


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jezemine
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Posted - 2008-09-15 : 00:49:59
biologists feeling jealous: http://www.bbspot.com/News/2008/09/squirrel-smasher.html

this doesn't bode well: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8297787@N03/2845861422/sizes/l/

end of the world has happened, but apparently there's a cover up: http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html



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khtan
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Posted - 2008-09-15 : 01:13:55
I just knew it is going to happen ! I must be somewhere in the black-hole now posting this


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