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jaybee
Yak Posting Veteran
72 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-22 : 06:54:13
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I've speculated there are two possible justifications for this misdescription, neither of which I give much weight:1)This is a "Wild, wild" place, lawless and scary like an 1880's saloon. Nope, it ain't any of those, this is tame compared to other 'Yak' fora I enjoy;2)People in IT are geeks who "dread" socialising and find interface more comfortable than intercourse (take that as far as you want!). Again, untrue; not many extroverts abound in our departments, granted, but only a small minority cower in their cubicles. I certainly don't. |
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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
11752 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-22 : 07:34:50
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emm... huh?why dreaded?_______________________________________________Causing trouble since 1980blog: http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenpSSMS Add-in that does a few things: www.ssmstoolspack.com |
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RickD
Slow But Sure Yak Herding Master
3608 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-22 : 08:22:47
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I think its because Graz hides in a cubicle.. ;) |
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pootle_flump
1064 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-22 : 10:59:07
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quote: Originally posted by spirit1 emm... huh?why dreaded?
That's Graz's description in the forum header. |
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jezemine
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
2886 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-27 : 10:12:06
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many programmers are socially retarded. I know I am! just ask my wife. I don't hide in a cube. but perhaps I should! always saying the wrong thing... elsasoft.org |
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Zoroaster
Aged Yak Warrior
702 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-27 : 11:18:44
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Maybe it has nothing to do with dread in that sense but is perhaps a reference to dread locks, imagine a yak with dread locks in a corral. This would explain the "Dreaded yak corral". Future guru in the making. |
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khtan
In (Som, Ni, Yak)
17689 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-27 : 11:50:39
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quote: I don't hide in a cube. but perhaps I should!
That's still not too bad. I hides at home all the time  KH[spoiler]Time is always against us[/spoiler] |
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Michael Valentine Jones
Yak DBA Kernel (pronounced Colonel)
7020 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-27 : 12:05:17
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quote: Originally posted by jezeminemany programmers are socially retarded...
I wonder how true that is as a general statement. Any group of people has its share, social or otherwise.Is that an unfair generalization about IT people, or is there a really a higher percentage of social ‘tards in the IT world? Maybe the people that fit that picture reinforce the stereotype, and the normal people are dismissed as exceptions.Or maybe I'm just so used to being around IT types that they seem normal to me. CODO ERGO SUM |
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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
11752 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-27 : 12:18:16
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we were to marginalized by the early geek movies... but what can you do... _______________________________________________Causing trouble since 1980blog: http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenpSSMS Add-in that does a few things: www.ssmstoolspack.com |
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jezemine
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
2886 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-27 : 23:43:44
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quote: Originally posted by Zoroaster Maybe it has nothing to do with dread in that sense but is perhaps a reference to dread locks, imagine a yak with dread locks in a corral. This would explain the "Dreaded yak corral". Future guru in the making.
indeed. now where's my lambsbread? elsasoft.org |
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jezemine
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
2886 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-28 : 01:18:52
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perhaps the problem is that logic itself is perceived as anti-social. programmers are generally a logical group. most of society (in the US anyway, I would argue) is logically illiterate. (How do you explain the popularity of so-called intelligent design, for example?) In fact I find that many ignorant people often act *proud* of their illiteracy of science and math topics. they are not ashamed of it at all, the way they would probably be ashamed if they admitted they couldn't read, for example. so, if you find yourself in a group of logically illiterate people and say something that offends them, it's probably because what you said was logical and coherent! elsasoft.org |
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pootle_flump
1064 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-28 : 07:12:04
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Me (Arranging a meet in a pub in Manchester): So are we meeting in the Briton's Protection or the Marble Arch?"Logical" programmer friend: YesThat is why people hate us |
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pootle_flump
1064 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-28 : 07:15:50
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quote: Originally posted by jezemine most of society (in the US anyway, I would argue) is logically illiterate. (How do you explain the popularity of so-called intelligent design, for example?)
I'm not sure intelligent design is a good example of people not understanding logic unless those same people attempt to justify it logically. I'm quite comfy with someone having faith in intelligent design even if I don't agree with them. |
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jezemine
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
2886 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-28 : 07:52:01
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I recently read in FT that more than 1/2 of americans are creationists. I am not comfy with that. It's a triumph of unreason.Perhaps they would come around if they were not allowed to benefit from any scientific advances that depend on the concept of evolution: all of biology, genetics, and medicine for the last 100 years. elsasoft.org |
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RickD
Slow But Sure Yak Herding Master
3608 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-28 : 08:55:47
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The thing is, evolution can still be part of the creationists theory, unless of course the creationists think we were drafted in a gods image (then they are just friutcakes).As far as the ET hypothesis goes though, this is still viable and could be construed as logical (especially if you are a vulcan). |
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jezemine
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
2886 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-28 : 09:20:54
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creationism in the US == literal interpretation of the book of genesisbasically half the US population is stuck in middle ages regarding biology. that is unless you need a flu shot of course. or if you get cancer. then they are happy to turn to modern medicine! elsasoft.org |
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RickD
Slow But Sure Yak Herding Master
3608 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-28 : 09:51:30
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Oh well, then yes, all the benefits of modern science should be taken away from them. At least that will help with the world population. |
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pootle_flump
1064 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-28 : 11:14:56
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quote: Originally posted by RickD Oh well, then yes, all the benefits of modern science should be taken away from them. At least that will help with the world population.
Oh yes - that'll learn 'em. |
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Zoroaster
Aged Yak Warrior
702 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-28 : 11:20:36
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quote: Originally posted by jezemine creationism in the US == literal interpretation of the book of genesisbasically half the US population is stuck in middle ages regarding biology. that is unless you need a flu shot of course. or if you get cancer. then they are happy to turn to modern medicine! elsasoft.org
One commonality among the "scientists" that support intelligent design is that they are committed to Christianity first and build the case for intelligent design second. There are no cases of someone scientifically coming to the conclusions of intelligent design without the influence of the bible as a guiding factor. Future guru in the making. |
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pootle_flump
1064 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-28 : 11:44:30
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I seem to remember an archaeologist on a program debating the two camps conceding that, if evolution is correct, then there are an unexplainable lack of transient forms. I believe it is known as the theory of evolution too |
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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
11752 Posts |
Posted - 2007-11-28 : 11:54:15
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well both are valid theories. a theory needs to be either proved or disproved... so the race is on _______________________________________________Causing trouble since 1980blog: http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenpSSMS Add-in that does a few things: www.ssmstoolspack.com |
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