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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
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 Posted - 2007-10-03 : 13:42:13
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http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2007/10/03/releasing-the-source-code-for-the-net-framework-libraries.aspxthis is certanly great news!how about a petition to "open source" SSIS, SSAS and SSRS.maybe some hardcore c++ with sql server too  _______________________________________________Causing trouble since 1980blog: http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenpSSMS Add-in that does a few things: www.ssmstoolspack.com |
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rockmoose
SQL Natt Alfen
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Posted - 2007-10-03 : 16:09:47
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| I knew you would like that rockmoose |
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eyechart
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
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Posted - 2007-10-03 : 16:13:49
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| this is a good step.I wonder what the guys at the mono project (open source clone of .NET) think about this news http://www.mono-project.com/Main_PageEDIT:after reading the article a little closer it seems that this isn't open source using GPL or other open source license. For example, if you are a dev and come across a bug you cannot fix it and submit your patch to be included in the next release like other FOSS projects. You still would need to fill a bug report and have microsoft make the change.Still, this is a step in the right direction.-ec |
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eyechart
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
11752 Posts |
Posted - 2007-10-03 : 16:30:17
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| yes. it's look only "open source".but still.. being able to go into the .net framework will be awsome for debugging.i'm just worried about the speed of it all... i mean every time you press f11 you have to dowload the file... i hope some caching will be at work here._______________________________________________Causing trouble since 1980blog: http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenpSSMS Add-in that does a few things: www.ssmstoolspack.com |
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jezemine
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
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Posted - 2007-10-04 : 04:01:20
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pretty sure there is a symbol and source cache. that is, there is in windbg anyway. I am pretty sure the VS debugger works the same way. btw, you can also get at the source of the BCL (or any other managed assembly) with Lutz Roeder's reflector.exe (but you can't debug). It's a disassembler for managed code, very slick. most managed code devs already know about this tool, but just in case you don't, it's awesome. There's even a plugin for it to inspect the source code of an assembly that has been imported into sql server 2005. it's saved my a$$ on a couple occasions. http://www.aisto.com/roeder/dotnet
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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
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Posted - 2007-10-04 : 04:35:44
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| oh i'm very intimatelyfamiliar with reflector reflexil (http://sebastien.lebreton.free.fr/reflexil) also kicks ass. it's an add in for reflector that allows you to change a dll and save it back to the disk.this basicaly means one thing for tool providers:bye bye licence checks, since they can be easily circumvented.nothing acctually helps once you find the correct method that performs the check._______________________________________________Causing trouble since 1980blog: http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenpSSMS Add-in that does a few things: www.ssmstoolspack.com |
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jezemine
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
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Posted - 2007-10-04 : 09:00:06
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indeed. obfuscators help a little in this regard but it's a tiny barrier.my stance license keys is, I don't bother with complicated license key code since no matter what you do, someone will crack it. the only reason to have a license key is to keep honest people honest. the thieves will steal no matter what you do.
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.Net 3.5 "open sourced"