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SwePeso
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 01:45:45
SQLTeam now is linked to Wikipedia
at this URL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luhn_algorithm

Many thanks to Michael Valentine Jones.


Peter Larsson
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chiragkhabaria
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 02:52:24
Congrates Peter

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SwePeso
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 03:03:29
Thank you Chirag.
The Luhn algorithm is one of the easiest algorithms I have ever written so I feel some kind of anti-climax...


Peter Larsson
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spirit1
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 04:19:35
i don't see a link to sqlteam anywhere on that site in wikipedia.
where is it?



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SwePeso
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 04:23:42
Strange, it is gone now...
I don't know how this thing work. Maybe it is under some kind of review?
Or they do not allow links to forums?

I will take a look at it.

I found it here, in the "history of the page".
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Luhn_algorithm&oldid=93672972



Peter Larsson
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Kristen
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 04:29:24
Its weird because it appears to be in the most recent version int he History - and I'm pretty sure I saw it there an hour ago. Maybe they have a number of proxy servers that are not 100% in sync?

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SwePeso
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 04:41:15
Perhaps. The latest version of the page is back again in my browser.


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spirit1
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 04:57:15
i can see it now too.
CTRL+F5 helped... weird...



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madhivanan
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 05:46:16
quote:
Originally posted by spirit1

i can see it now too.
CTRL+F5 helped... weird...



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How did it help you?

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spirit1
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 06:21:02
well i went to the page again and refreshed it (F5 only) a few times without luck.
then i pressed CTRL+F5 and there it was.



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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 06:36:12
"How did it help you?"

It should force a refresh back to the source, rather than using some stale cached copy locally (or even from the ISP etc.)

We used to have terrible trouble with Freeserve [probably others did the same] because their proxy-caches were never in sync. So we'd make a change to a site, ask the client to approve, and if the client was using Freeserve as ISP they wouldn't see the change (even if they did Control-Refresh Freeserve ignored it [I assume to save money on bandwidth]) - or the client would see the new image, but randomly. So we'd get calls a week later saying "Why have you put it back how it was?"

... so we had to introduce a policy of renaming all images, CSS files, etc. every time they changed to prevent the old version being cached

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madhivanan
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 06:50:26
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It should force a refresh back to the source, rather than using some stale cached copy locally (or even from the ISP etc.)
>>

Thanks Kristen. I think you have rich enough knowledge in Web applications as well

Madhivanan

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Kristen
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 06:51:20
Well so long as my consultancy clients think that too I'm happy!
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madhivanan
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 06:59:05
quote:
Originally posted by Kristen

Well so long as my consultancy clients think that too I'm happy!




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eyechart
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 11:07:55
Peso,

I think you should have a blog where you post your code. You will get more visibility that way. nice work btw.



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spirit1
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 11:32:00
i agree.
tell graz to set it up...

sqlteam has the highest page rank on google when it comes to sql server.
for instance:
search for "vardecimal" in google.
the first result is my post on sqlteam, the second is that of SQL Server Storage Engine team blog on MSDN
should be vice versa since SQL Server Storage Engine is the creator...

If that's not visibility then i don't know what is




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madhivanan
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 11:41:23
quote:
Originally posted by eyechart

Peso,

I think you should have a blog where you post your code. You will get more visibility that way. nice work btw.



-ec


Good Suggestion
Also,I want to see the blog Where Kristen posts there

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SwePeso
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 12:51:46
sqlblogg.developerworkshop.net


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Kristen
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 15:09:31
"You will get more visibility that way"

Why?

Sorry chaps but I think that is bollocks.

The blogs are crap. Fashionable, but useless.

They allow people to publish "complete works". I have no difficultly with that at all - and indeed I am all for it.

I don't see smart ways of formatting the code, or associating the work within a genre (such as "New to SQL Server", "General SQL Server" ... and the like).

and that said, monitoring the Follow-Ups is patchy. You can read them all, if you have time. Or, more likely, if you try to subscribe you will be overwhelmed and you will miss the meaty-follow-ups.

IMHO a Forum has a much more structured way of allowing community follow ups. Something that allowed replying per-thread, rather than per-topic would be even better (but not in the current SQL-team-version-of-Snitz).

Be that as it may, Followup doesn't even come close to the equivalent Forum-style of people replying to the original article, or even to a specific follow-up - which lacks any method of deciphering to-what they were referring).

I think that publishing articles is great. But putting them in a Blog and inviting debate is a complete and utter waste of time in terms of the value of the follow-on-debate which is invoked, and I have more-than-once seen the hypothesis of "You will get more visibility [if you post in a blog]" and I completely fail to understand why people think that.

When I search on thorny-issues in SQL Server I tend to get responses in SQLTeam.com's forums and most likely some articles in SQL_Performance, etc., but Blogs are not very common in the Google Results - except perhaps the MSDN blogs - which are an Epistle, rather than a Debate IMHO.

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spirit1
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 15:13:33
it depends on the topic kristen



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eyechart
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Posted - 2006-12-12 : 15:40:40
quote:
Originally posted by Kristen

"You will get more visibility that way"

Why?

Sorry chaps but I think that is bollocks.

The blogs are crap. Fashionable, but useless.

They allow people to publish "complete works". I have no difficultly with that at all - and indeed I am all for it.

I don't see smart ways of formatting the code, or associating the work within a genre (such as "New to SQL Server", "General SQL Server" ... and the like).

and that said, monitoring the Follow-Ups is patchy. You can read them all, if you have time. Or, more likely, if you try to subscribe you will be overwhelmed and you will miss the meaty-follow-ups.

IMHO a Forum has a much more structured way of allowing community follow ups. Something that allowed replying per-thread, rather than per-topic would be even better (but not in the current SQL-team-version-of-Snitz).

Be that as it may, Followup doesn't even come close to the equivalent Forum-style of people replying to the original article, or even to a specific follow-up - which lacks any method of deciphering to-what they were referring).

I think that publishing articles is great. But putting them in a Blog and inviting debate is a complete and utter waste of time in terms of the value of the follow-on-debate which is invoked, and I have more-than-once seen the hypothesis of "You will get more visibility [if you post in a blog]" and I completely fail to understand why people think that.

When I search on thorny-issues in SQL Server I tend to get responses in SQLTeam.com's forums and most likely some articles in SQL_Performance, etc., but Blogs are not very common in the Google Results - except perhaps the MSDN blogs - which are an Epistle, rather than a Debate IMHO.

Kristen



good points. But what if I wanted to find all the stuff that Peter has come up with, or that Tara has done? Sure I can google the shit out of these forums and find it, but it is easier if they have a blog.

I often point people to specific pieces of code that I know are in the forums. For example, Derrick Leggett has an improved version of sp_help_revlogin that I use and suggest others use. I can only find it in the forums here. It would be great if he had a blog where this was posted so I could point people there instead of saying that they should search the forums for it.

No doubt good discussion in these forums leads to new ideas and improvements on "published" work. That is why we come here. However, I feel that there is room for both blog/forum, and when used properly the blog is the better setting for "officially" publishing this kind of information.



-ec

EDIT:
Derrick does have a blog, and he has published his modified sp_help_revlogin there (for sql 2000 only) http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/derrickl/archive/2005/12/04/8484.aspx

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