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SamC
White Water Yakist

3467 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-17 : 10:16:49
This might make an interesting poll...

Anyone in this forum:

- Deploying any production Ajax?
- Playing with Ajax in development?
- Purchased a book on Ajax?
- What is Ajax?

twhelan1
Yak Posting Veteran

71 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-17 : 14:22:12
... cleaned my sink with Ajax once.

~Travis
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Kristen
Test

22859 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-17 : 15:03:50
We're planning on using it, especially for the "Back Office" tools that support our "front office" web sites.

Kristen
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Merkin
Funky Drop Bear Fearing SQL Dude!

4970 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-17 : 18:14:13
Developing a site that will be fairly high profile in Australia using AJAX for some functions. We're using the Magic Ajax library.


Damian
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Emerson
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khtan
In (Som, Ni, Yak)

17689 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-17 : 20:54:05
quote:
Originally posted by twhelan1

... cleaned my sink with Ajax once.

~Travis


That's fabulous



KH


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Michael Valentine Jones
Yak DBA Kernel (pronounced Colonel)

7020 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-17 : 23:21:17
MagicAjax.NET Version 0.2 ?
http://www.magicajax.net/




CODO ERGO SUM
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elwoos
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

2052 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-18 : 03:33:33
That's perfect for something I am trying to setup

cheers

steve

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Oh, so they have internet on computers now!
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Kristen
Test

22859 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-18 : 08:18:54
"That's perfect for something I am trying to setup"

Its going to have a couple of Kitchen Sinks is it?

Kristen
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elwoos
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

2052 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-19 : 03:04:47
quote:
Its going to have a couple of Kitchen Sinks is it?


It's much worse than that. It's a proof of concept!


steve

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Kristen
Test

22859 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-19 : 11:21:32
Ah! Several kitchen sinks then ... lots of Ajax required I suppose?
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darenkov
Yak Posting Veteran

90 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-20 : 09:32:41
I have deployed several Ajax based applications to production. For these I have hand coded the javascript with reference to the XMLHTTPRequest, and used a .net event handler to do the server side processing. It all works fine but our intranet users all have IE. I would have to add some more javascript to make it more browser friendly before letting anything like that out in the wild.

I have played with a few AJAX libraries in development and there are some awesome ones out there (MagicAjax as Merkin suggested is pretty good). I would also recommend Anthem (by Jason Diamond). Its pretty powerful and hides/generates most of the javascript for your. It also supports viewstate.

In conclusion I would highly recommend Microsoft's ATLAS for Ajax. The earlier versions were a little cumbersome and difficult to use, but the latest CTP release is pretty neat. It basically allows you to use ATLAS client side scripting or ATLAS server controls. The client side scripting approach allows any front-end language to integrate the library, whereas the ATLAS server controls are specifically designed for the .NET server controls. The neatest thing with the server controls is that there is a control called the "update Panel". All you have to do is wrap the tags around existing 2.0 .NET controls and they will automatically become AJAXIFIED (ok i made that word up). This saves you from having to write tons of javascript, however if you really want to tinker under the bonnet the ATLAS javascript libraries are awesome.

here's a good starting place:

http://atlas.asp.net

check Scott Guthries to do list. Its amazing what can be done in under 20mins.

p.s using ATLAS also wont hurt the resume if your looking to add to your other Microsoft skills
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robvolk
Most Valuable Yak

15732 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-21 : 18:15:41
Here's another AJAX lib that looks interesting:

http://www.xerratus.com/2006/02/08/AJAXJustGotSmarterWithAnthemNET.aspx
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Merkin
Funky Drop Bear Fearing SQL Dude!

4970 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-21 : 20:20:43
Anthem does look really good on the surface, the demos make it look really easy.
When we tried to actually use it though we found it to be a hassle (I don't have details, it wasn't me actually doing the implementation). The Magic library does something similar to the ATLAS "update panel" that will AJAXify a group of standard controls.

For a lot of our stuff we ended up rolled our own.


Damian
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Emerson
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