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Stoad
Freaky Yak Linguist
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 Posted - 2005-01-27 : 06:16:41
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| who can summarize this for mere mortals?http://www.geocities.com/tablizer/top.htm |
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Merkin
Funky Drop Bear Fearing SQL Dude!
4970 Posts |
Posted - 2005-01-27 : 06:36:14
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| I think it goes like...blah blah wank wank blah blah wank wank blah blah wank wank blah blah wank wank blah blah wank wank blah blah wank wank Damian |
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Stoad
Freaky Yak Linguist
1983 Posts |
Posted - 2005-01-27 : 07:16:15
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| lol... blah blah wank wank blahseems too many philosophers hide among programmers... |
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robvolk
Most Valuable Yak
15732 Posts |
Posted - 2005-01-27 : 07:16:21
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My exposure to TOP started back in the late 1980's when I purchased a dBASE III book. I quickly fell in love with dBASE and later its XBase derivatives.
OK, this is reasonable, I became a heavy Clipper programmer/fan, still kind of miss it to this day.quote:
It made working with relational tables such a snap that I started to view ALL collections as XBase tables.
This, however, is pure crack-smoking. dBase had LESS THAN ZERO ability to handle "tables" relationally. dBase HAD NO TABLES!!!! A "table" in dBase was considered a separate DATABASE, and was stored in a separate FILE. INDEXES where also stored in separate FILES. dBase would not even use an index unless you EXPLICITLY TOLD IT TO. This was a hallmark of ALL Xbase databases, with the possible exception of Visual Foxpro (I don't know VFP well so I can't say).dBase had a SET RELATION command that could link tables, but unless the columns you wanted to link were indexed (and you set the indexes beforehand) you could only link on...RECORD NUMBER!Which, as we all know, is a <heaviest possible sarcasm> fundamental relational construct. </heaviest possible sarcasm> So I'd agree with Damian on this one, except to modify it a little:blah blah blah wank wank blah take-a-hit wank blah take-a-hit wank wank take-a-hit take-a-hit blah take-a-hittake-a-hittake-a-hittake-a-hittake-a-hit wank what was I talking about? |
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Stoad
Freaky Yak Linguist
1983 Posts |
Posted - 2005-01-27 : 07:21:11
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| 6 seconds!ok, rob! thanks :| TOTALLY agree with you!seems as if I made this topic just for my post count :( |
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robvolk
Most Valuable Yak
15732 Posts |
Posted - 2005-01-27 : 07:26:43
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Well yeah, that's what all of the front-page SQL Team members do.  |
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Merkin
Funky Drop Bear Fearing SQL Dude!
4970 Posts |
Posted - 2005-01-27 : 07:27:50
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| Not ALL of us!Damian |
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nr
SQLTeam MVY
12543 Posts |
Posted - 2005-01-27 : 08:01:52
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| This is only from reading the first few paragraphsThink it's summed up by>> Although SQL is a high-level language that is quite powerful for certain types of operations, it is far from a general-purpose table processing language. Many programmers end up writing "speggitti-SQL" because the alternative is to use annoying API calls or convert to data cursors. SQL is also a poor match for interactive programs because it is more of a batch-processing and query processing language. Sounds like a concept for application programmers who don't understand databases or sql to allow them to do things that they think are difficult without admitting that they need help.==========================================Cursors are useful if you don't know sql.DTS can be used in a similar way.Beer is not cold and it isn't fizzy. |
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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
11752 Posts |
Posted - 2005-01-27 : 08:49:55
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ok this one is for raising post count  Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow  |
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Stoad
Freaky Yak Linguist
1983 Posts |
Posted - 2005-01-27 : 09:17:57
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| great idea, spirit!indeed, let's use this topic for incrementing our post counts! |
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Seventhnight
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
2878 Posts |
Posted - 2005-01-27 : 10:38:29
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not fair.. I want a raise (post count )Corey "If the only tool you have is a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail." - Mark Twain |
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graz
Chief SQLTeam Crack Dealer
4149 Posts |
Posted - 2005-01-27 : 12:02:16
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| Post count increases for all!===============================================Creating tomorrow's legacy systems today.One crisis at a time. |
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X002548
Not Just a Number
15586 Posts |
Posted - 2005-01-27 : 13:18:38
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And a chicken in every potquote:
Originally posted by Merkin
Not ALL of us!Damian
And Not ALL of us! have been here since the dawn of time....I still wish I had found this site 1 year earlier though...Brett8-) |
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nr
SQLTeam MVY
12543 Posts |
Posted - 2005-01-27 : 18:34:59
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| >> ok this one is for raising post count.How does that work?==========================================Cursors are useful if you don't know sql.DTS can be used in a similar way.Beer is not cold and it isn't fizzy. |
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nr
SQLTeam MVY
12543 Posts |
Posted - 2005-01-27 : 18:37:00
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| oh, I see .==========================================Cursors are useful if you don't know sql.DTS can be used in a similar way.Beer is not cold and it isn't fizzy. |
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Stoad
Freaky Yak Linguist
1983 Posts |
Posted - 2005-01-28 : 03:03:48
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| lol, Nigel; Btw, I liked one observation of that "philosopher", here it is:SQL also has an annoying nest-happy LISP-like structure, which makesbreaking down the logic into manageable chunks tough, especially for multi-joins.And I think he's absolutely right. But I count this as a great compli(or e?)ment for "us". |
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