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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master

11752 Posts

Posted - 2006-08-04 : 11:59:55
DAMN THEM TO HELL!!!!!!!

I was never opposed to nulls... but now... IT'S OVER.
THEY CAN BITE MY SHINY METAL ASS!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry folks... rant over!



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nr
SQLTeam MVY

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Posted - 2006-08-04 : 12:09:15
But without null you wouldn't be able to use coalesce!

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DTS can be used in a similar way.
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spirit1
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Posted - 2006-08-04 : 12:15:45
fine by me



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X002548
Not Just a Number

15586 Posts

Posted - 2006-08-04 : 13:26:29
What would you like to put for your DOD?



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spirit1
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Posted - 2006-08-04 : 13:38:18
DOD?



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Michael Valentine Jones
Yak DBA Kernel (pronounced Colonel)

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Posted - 2006-08-04 : 13:50:26
What's a NULL?




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TG
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

6065 Posts

Posted - 2006-08-04 : 15:01:33
SHINY METAL ASS ???

Doesn't it rust?

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rockmoose
SQL Natt Alfen

3279 Posts

Posted - 2006-08-04 : 15:31:40
LOL

DOD = Date of Death

Yay!

SQL2023 (codename unknown (null?) I heard is going to fix this problem.
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Stoad
Freaky Yak Linguist

1983 Posts

Posted - 2006-08-04 : 15:35:14
If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us. (c) not mine


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Michael Valentine Jones
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Posted - 2006-08-04 : 20:29:41
quote:
Originally posted by TG

SHINY METAL ASS ???

Doesn't it rust?

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TG



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eyechart
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3575 Posts

Posted - 2006-08-05 : 01:09:18
quote:
Originally posted by Stoad

If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us. (c) not mine


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new medication? :)



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Stoad
Freaky Yak Linguist

1983 Posts

Posted - 2006-08-05 : 03:37:37
I think I just hinted that if someone hates nulls it means he himself is full of them (of nulls)


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madhivanan
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22864 Posts

Posted - 2006-08-05 : 04:51:18
quote:
Originally posted by nr

But without null you wouldn't be able to use coalesce!

==========================================
Cursors are useful if you don't know sql.
DTS can be used in a similar way.
Beer is not cold and it isn't fizzy.


So as ISNULL

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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master

11752 Posts

Posted - 2006-08-05 : 06:21:01
hey... are you calling me an empty shell, stoad?

I resent that!!



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TG
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

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Posted - 2006-08-05 : 07:18:52
I think an "empty shell" would be more analogous to an emptry string. I believe he was referring to you as that which never was, or perhaps that which is not but will be. Like a DOD, which of course is something that no one can have until they are no more - the only thing you can "take with you". Yes Spirit1, I think Stoad's point is that you are a DOD to one who is.


Ok, it's obviously still too early for me to be communicating - I'll get another cup of coffee...

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TG
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spirit1
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Posted - 2006-08-05 : 07:31:09
wow... that's some serious metaphysical stuff, TG...

And besides i already know my DOD. 18.11.2061...



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TG
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

6065 Posts

Posted - 2006-08-05 : 08:06:41
Then on that day I shall mourne. Of course I'll be 102 so there may be some drooling involved as well.

EDIT:
Why that day? Can you put your death off until another day? Lets get together and play some golf that day...my calendar is clear :)

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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master

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Posted - 2006-08-05 : 08:41:14
the powers to be told me so

golfing would be a nice way to go.... yeah let's do it!



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Stoad
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Posted - 2006-08-05 : 10:52:47
if seriously
what will LEFT JOIN be without notion of NULL value?
where RightTable.SomeColumn is NULL


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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master

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Posted - 2006-08-05 : 11:03:38
that's different.

I meant allowing columns in table to be nullable.
I understand that they are needed... I just got pissed off for a moment there





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rockmoose
SQL Natt Alfen

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Posted - 2006-08-05 : 11:28:25
quote:
Originally posted by Stoad

if seriously
what will LEFT JOIN be without notion of NULL value?
where RightTable.SomeColumn is NULL



Depends on the implementation of the relational model.
For instance, if relation valued attributes (RVA) were possible then OUTER JOIN would not be necessary.
A relation could be extended with a RVA, and if no match it would just be empty.


Well, since this is not possible in SQL, the discussion is only theoretical, and in practice NULL will continue to represent missing values for outer joins.
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