Please start any new threads on our new site at https://forums.sqlteam.com. We've got lots of great SQL Server experts to answer whatever question you can come up with.

 All Forums
 Site Related Forums
 The Yak Corral
 it's not what you think...

Author  Topic 

jen
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

4110 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-06 : 01:21:16
have you read the agreement when you download oracle express?

http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/xe/htdocs/102xewinsoft.html

--edit, removed one link, i can't remember if i posted two...


yep, I am going to learn oracle because my head cannot handle the banging on brick wall anymore...

--------------------
keeping it simple...

Kristen
Test

22859 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-06 : 01:59:41
Did you read the "No Technical Support" clause?

Kristen
Go to Top of Page

eyechart
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

3575 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-06 : 02:04:55
I like this one:

Upon 45 days written notice Oracle may audit the use of the program. You agree to cooperate with Oracle's audit and provide reasonable assistance and access to information. You agree that Oracle shall not be responsible for any of your costs incurred in cooperating with the audit.

Oracle 10g XE is really a great product though. It remains to be seen if the open source community will start using it over MySQL though.


-ec
Go to Top of Page

jen
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

4110 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-06 : 04:26:11
do they really take time to do those stuff?

i mean, the user may just say, I haven't installed it yet or my hard disk crashed and decided not to evaluate and so on...

I thought it was some kind of a joke, or is it?



--------------------
keeping it simple...
Go to Top of Page

spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master

11752 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-06 : 05:15:33
this is interesting:
quote:

You are not a citizen, national, or resident of, and are not under control of, the government of Cuba, Iran, Sudan, Libya, North Korea, Syria, nor any country to which the United States has prohibited export.



So if there's an export restriction how can they have licenced sql servers in Iran?

Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow
Blog thingie: [URL="http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenp"]
Go to Top of Page

Kristen
Test

22859 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-06 : 08:01:50
"I thought it was some kind of a joke, or is it?"

It just gives them the right to charge you if they discover that you are charging for your application and lots of people are using it ... and Oracle aren't making any money out of you! Not altogether unreasonable, really ...

"So if there's an export restriction how can they have licenced sql servers in Iran?"

I'm sure they can apply for export licenses - on a case-by-case basis.

Our multinational clients have bravado statements that mirror national requirements. Like "We do not honour country embargoes, but we may be choosy where we work" and "Can you produce a report for all countries excluding anything in South Africa during the Apartheid period"

Kristen
Go to Top of Page

AndrewMurphy
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

2916 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-06 : 11:23:15
"Our multinational clients have bravado statements that mirror national requirements. Like "We do not honour country embargoes, but we may be choosy where we work" and "Can you produce a report for all countries excluding anything in South Africa during the Apartheid period" ...
...usually these get dumped/bypassed when there's (serious) money to be made...
Go to Top of Page

spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master

11752 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-06 : 11:30:14
that's hypocrisy in it's purest if you ask me.
make the policy but only abide by it sometimes...

Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow
Blog thingie: [URL="http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenp"]
Go to Top of Page

blindman
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

2365 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-06 : 12:59:52
quote:
Originally posted by spirit1

that's hypocrisy in it's purest if you ask me.
make the policy but only abide by it sometimes...
Hell, that's the American way. What are you, anti-patriotic?
Go to Top of Page

blindman
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

2365 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-06 : 13:01:27
Oh, wait. You're not even American.

Well, you're on our Watch List now, buddy.
Go to Top of Page

spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master

11752 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-06 : 14:45:50
what all this time you thought i was American??
i'm insulted now !!

Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow
Blog thingie: [URL="http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenp"]
Go to Top of Page

blindman
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

2365 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-06 : 14:54:48
As an American, I just naturally assume that everybody else is an American until I find out otherwise. Occasionally we need to be reminded that the Sun passes over other countries between the time is sets in California and the time it rises in New York.
But really, isn't everybody a little bit American? If that sounds WAY too egocentric, then remember that the United States is a little bit of every place else.
I'm betting you have McDonalds over there in Slovenia...
Go to Top of Page

spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master

11752 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-06 : 14:58:22
yeah we do...

but i disagree that everyone is a bit American. it's the other way around.
Americans are a little bit of everyone

Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow
Blog thingie: [URL="http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenp"]
Go to Top of Page

rockmoose
SQL Natt Alfen

3279 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-06 : 15:13:53
Well money stands above political interests and political interests stand above law and law stands above ideological ideas and ideological ideas stand above common sense, and everyone is willing to look the other way if it suits their interests.

rockmoose
Go to Top of Page

jen
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

4110 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-07 : 02:31:11
so money rules


--------------------
keeping it simple...
Go to Top of Page

Kristen
Test

22859 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-07 : 06:59:23
"But really, isn't everybody a little bit American?"

Kindly refer to the United Kingdom as "The Mother Country" in future

Kristen
Go to Top of Page

Arnold Fribble
Yak-finder General

1961 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-07 : 08:11:25
We have people who dress up as giant chickens in our McDonald's... until they get arrested by 20 police officers (some in riot gear) and charged for aggrevated trespass.
Go to Top of Page

Kristen
Test

22859 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-07 : 08:15:05
McFluNugget ...
Go to Top of Page

elwoos
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

2052 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-07 : 08:27:00
Hey Blindman didn't you know the sun never sets on a real empire [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_empire_on_which_the_sun_never_sets[/url]


steve

-----------

Oh, so they have internet on computers now!
Go to Top of Page

spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master

11752 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-07 : 08:33:28
well every empire until now has fallen so... i'd be a bit carefull with that word

Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow
Blog thingie: [URL="http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenp"]
Go to Top of Page

RickD
Slow But Sure Yak Herding Master

3608 Posts

Posted - 2006-04-07 : 08:51:14
quote:
Originally posted by blindman

As an American, I just naturally assume that everybody else is an American until I find out otherwise. Occasionally we need to be reminded that the Sun passes over other countries between the time is sets in California and the time it rises in New York.
But really, isn't everybody a little bit American? If that sounds WAY too egocentric, then remember that the United States is a little bit of every place else.
I'm betting you have McDonalds over there in Slovenia...


So, why is it that Universal Time is taken from the mother country?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Time
Go to Top of Page
    Next Page

- Advertisement -