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jen
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
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 Posted - 2006-04-02 : 23:37:52
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just have to share...dbm [short for db mangler --oopss manager]: sql2000 is obsolete, so your request for upgrade to per processor is deniedme: huh? what do you mean by obsolete?? MS won't support it anymore?dbm: sql2000 is obsolete because sql2005 is outme: but we haven't even finished evaluating and you bought a new tool to monitor the sql2000 servers and there's nothing in the site that says it's obsolete and there are no...dbm: sql2000 is obsolete...just like talking to a live bot  ...--------------------keeping it simple... |
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Merkin
Funky Drop Bear Fearing SQL Dude!
4970 Posts |
Posted - 2006-04-03 : 03:32:14
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Find his car in the carpark and cut his brake lines  Damian"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Emerson |
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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
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Posted - 2006-04-03 : 05:40:49
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jen (next day): DBM is obsolete...Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow  Blog thingie: [URL="http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenp"] |
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elwoos
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
2052 Posts |
Posted - 2006-04-03 : 08:35:18
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Tell him Vista is out and his machine is obsolete until he has it installed he can't use his machine  steve-----------Oh, so they have internet on computers now! |
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mr_mist
Grunnio
1870 Posts |
Posted - 2006-04-03 : 08:56:53
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| That's right Jen.. Actually you are obsolete too, because there's new babies produced every second. Of course, they are not ready yet, but that doesn't matter...-------Moo. :) |
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blindman
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
2365 Posts |
Posted - 2006-04-03 : 10:32:07
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| Never buy version 1.0 of anything. Tell him 2000 isn't obsolute until at least three patches are out for 2005. |
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Kristen
Test
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Posted - 2006-04-03 : 11:31:49
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| "obsolute"Added to my bullshit-baffles-brains lexicon!Kristen |
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eyechart
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
3575 Posts |
Posted - 2006-04-03 : 11:35:48
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| OK, I am assuming you are talking about changing your licensing from user CALs to the per processor licensing. If you are, then this is a licensing issue not a technical one - the fact that SQL2K may or may not be obsolete is irrelevant. Now, you are either purchasing the per processor licensing because:1. You have an external facing application with users connecting from internet or multiplexed in some way2. You have reached the point where it is cheaper for you to use per proc licensing compared to named user/device licensing because your organization is so large (and you only have 1 SQL server)If you are not in either of these categories then I cannot see a reason to purchase the per proc licensing. Anyway, your investment should be safe if you purchase the licensing under microsoft SA. Although, I am not 100% certain if CALs are covered under SA. You'll have to ask your MSFT licensing person if they are.-ec |
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Merkin
Funky Drop Bear Fearing SQL Dude!
4970 Posts |
Posted - 2006-04-03 : 19:47:44
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| eyechart, you do realise you are trying to apply logic to the situation don't you ?Damian"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Emerson |
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eyechart
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
3575 Posts |
Posted - 2006-04-03 : 23:04:26
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quote:
Originally posted by Merkin
eyechart, you do realise you are trying to apply logic to the situation don't you ?
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jen
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
4110 Posts |
Posted - 2006-04-04 : 03:35:36
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i am hoping that next week, he'll wake up in the "rational" side of the bed...or get a real good bump on the head to realign what went loose...or... ok, i'm being bad now...  just one of those days--------------------keeping it simple... |
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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
11752 Posts |
Posted - 2006-04-04 : 05:34:08
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| just one? Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow Blog thingie: [URL="http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/mladenp"] |
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jen
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
4110 Posts |
Posted - 2006-04-05 : 02:28:24
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and the saga continues...dbm: the licenses for sql2000 has been discontinuedme: huh? what do you mean discontinued? you mean it's not available anymore?dbm: the licenses for sql2000 has been discontinuedme: but the requirement of the project is to use sql2000 and it was already approved by managementdbm: the licenses for sql2000 has been discontinued...what the! i think this is preposterous, i haven't seen anything like this before... and it's not even friday yet  --------------------keeping it simple... |
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madhivanan
Premature Yak Congratulator
22864 Posts |
Posted - 2006-04-05 : 02:55:58
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>>and it's not even friday yet It seems coming in all days  MadhivananFailing to plan is Planning to fail |
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jen
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
4110 Posts |
Posted - 2006-04-05 : 04:45:47
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don't say bad words Maddy or else the god of misfortune might just decide not to leave my side...I am still optimistic things will turn out great quote:
Originally posted by madhivanan
>>and it's not even friday yet It seems coming in all days MadhivananFailing to plan is Planning to fail
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AndrewMurphy
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
2916 Posts |
Posted - 2006-04-05 : 05:18:45
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| but....we know how much you used to love Fridays!!! isn't that why you moved!!! |
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blindman
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
2365 Posts |
Posted - 2006-04-05 : 09:30:10
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| dbm: it migrates the application to sql server 2005, or else it gets the hose again.me: huh? what do you mean discontinued? you mean it's not available anymore?dbm: it migrates the application to sql server 2005, or else it gets the hose again.me: but the requirement of the project is to use sql2000 and it was already approved by managementdbm: it migrates the application to sql server 2005, or else it gets the hose again. |
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elwoos
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
2052 Posts |
Posted - 2006-04-05 : 11:07:03
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| Jen, - a simple lesson in life - When you stop banging your head against a brick wall the pain goes awaysteve-----------Oh, so they have internet on computers now! |
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Michael Valentine Jones
Yak DBA Kernel (pronounced Colonel)
7020 Posts |
Posted - 2006-04-05 : 21:03:08
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Originally posted by jen
and the saga continues...dbm: the licenses for sql2000 has been discontinuedme: huh? what do you mean discontinued? you mean it's not available anymore?dbm: the licenses for sql2000 has been discontinuedme: but the requirement of the project is to use sql2000 and it was already approved by managementdbm: the licenses for sql2000 has been discontinued...what the! i think this is preposterous, i haven't seen anything like this before... and it's not even friday yet --------------------keeping it simple...
I haven't checked into it, but this probably means that you can buy the licenses for SQL 2005, but deploy SQL 2000 with that license.MS did the same thing when they went from SQL 7.0 to SQL 2000. I remember at that time we needed to rollout SQL 7.0. and found out they no longer sold it. When we call MS, they explained that the SQL 2000 license let you deploy SQL 7.0.Oh, and give your db mangler a knock on the head for me.CODO ERGO SUM |
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jen
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
4110 Posts |
Posted - 2006-04-05 : 23:29:55
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| thanks MVJ, I checked this out too to confirm, and clarified from MS what is meant by discontinued (this bot has limited words you see, probably not yet trained). Apparently, only the "license" for sql2000 will not be released anymore but the licensing of those machines with or will use sql2000 will use sql2005 downgrade licensing feature.Stevie, I am now in the process of stopping the pain and will always go direct to the source for information (2nd hand information is always confusing)Andrew, you are partly correct (reason: got tired babysitting and spoonfeeding and cannot see in the foreseeable future that things will get better, I did hope for a while naive as it may seem)--------------------keeping it simple... |
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twhelan1
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sql2000 obsolete???